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Temat: The Secret

Steve Jones:
Because in order to gain anything from any such book, you have to be willing to pay the price of change.

Finally someone making sense. According to the book - If I Ask and Believe I shall Recieve in that order. So I tried it and ended up in Jail. Monopoly Jail. I asked for anything just not a number two with the roll of a dice and the rest is history.Fucking lost me the game too.
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Ilter K.

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Temat: The Secret

Violetta P.:
Ilter, it`s only about you, no other people are involved.
Not really Violetta, it involves everyone around me. Everyone sooner or later has to accept you as the way YOU are. Besides, maybe I'm wrong with the verb "accept". It is rather about "knowing the person".
I wasn't talking about "hidden ambitions/plans/dreams"... I was talking about real targets. Unless I behave like a complete (and idiot) dreamer, I can't harm anyone, can I?
Positive plans, which doesn't interfere, or badly effect other's lives.

On the other hand, a couple having trouble deciding on what they want to do in the near future is a different situation, and rather a "problem". It is like guy wanting a baby, and the gurl opposing it. I wasn't talking about that.
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Ilter K.

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Temat: The Secret

Lars Saabye Christensen:
Ilter take it from me - You will never become a well known successful Musician.
Lars, if you have some experience in life, probably you know that your opinion about this subject doesn't matter, really.
Probably you know, that thought is pretty easy-to-figure and banal - anyone could say: "It's not gonna work".
And probably you know, that you are not really creative at all.
Do I hope it will inspire you to greater lengths to become one?. Yes.
Why, are you a retired military sargeant?
I could only understand it if you were.
But then again I just dont believe you have it in you.
You, not believing - I can easily accept your feelings and thoughts, they are yours and yours only.

Me, not having it in me - that is possible. I mean, how can I know whether I will like to stay/be as a star, when I become one? No one can know it.
[repeated]... just dont believe you have it in you. And you know it too.
Not really. I believe I'm a born star. And everyone around me, who had a chance to get to know me know it too. I'm born to be a star. But achieving it, is something else.
I had realized that I'm not going to be a good military pilot when I was 17. I had realized that I'm not going to be a guitar virtuoso when I was 20. But being a star?
Can you define being a star?
I'm a star already... I'm just not famous.
And whether I'm going to be a famous star or not... time will tell.
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Temat: The Secret

ilter K.:
Why, are you a retired military sargeant?

No actually I was a medic.

>> I believe I'm a born star.

Thats right Ilter.You are very special. Nie jestes sam.

Its hurts doesnt it- you writing so much and I just skim over it in about 5 seconds.... oh maybe 7 seconds. Dont waste your stardom on people like me.Lars Saabye Christensen edytował(a) ten post dnia 12.12.08 o godzinie 12:07
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Ilter K.

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Temat: The Secret

Lars Saabye Christensen:
ilter K.:
I believe I'm a born star.

Thats right Ilter.You are very special. Nie jestes sam.
Lars, I really don't think it is about being special, or feeling special. And I wouldn't mind to be classified as a "regular guy". Because even though it might be a bad feeling for some, we are more or less same, at the end of the day.
Its hurts doesnt it- you writing so much and I just skim over it in about 5 seconds....
Not me. Anyone can write as much or little as he/she likes.
I only care about a real conversation. I want to feel like the things that I wrote are read before a corresponding message comes from the other part.
Dont waste your stardom on people like me.
Oh I see, you got into this "stardom" stereotype.
The thing is, for me being a famous star doesn't include arrogancy. A real star should be just like me. Easy to maintain, as human as possible, and kickin ass when it is needed.
I'm a kick ass person. Because I've been working hard on it.
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Temat: The Secret

Lars, any chance you could cut out the personal snipes?
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Temat: The Secret

Steve Jones:
Lars, any chance you could cut out the personal snipes?

You know Steve it would be be very difficult for me.So for you as a duty bound moderator I am leaving you with very little options. Before the coup de grâce perhaps you will allow me a final word.

No.
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Ilter K.

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Temat: The Secret

Steve Jones:
[...] There's a buzz. Loads of people are reading about The Secret.

And here's the rub: how many people, having read the book, would go out and make the change necessary to turn around their way of thinking?..
It's just like the things that some MLM gurus say..
It's something like "there are tons of people wanting to make money, but only 1% making the real money... it's like wanting a superb/fit/tight body whilst being obese."
One buys a lot of fat-burning (!) tools and the same person does really nothing to achieve his/her goal (which is loosing weight, mostly).
Now, I can't really call it as a real "goal" in this case.
People are just too lazy and insecure sometimes.

Edit: I wrote "having" instead of "wanting". Corrected.ilter K. edytował(a) ten post dnia 12.12.08 o godzinie 14:39
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Maciej J.

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Temat: The Secret

Steve Jones:
Lars, any chance you could cut out the personal snipes?

Steve, why even bother - and this goes for the rest of you guys, if you don't like what Laars is saying, then just ignore him – end of topic.
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Malgorzata F.

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Temat: The Secret

Steve Jones:
I'd heard a lot about this theory/ concept/ book/ film but hadn't got round to watching it until a couple of days ago...


Never heard about it being someone elses theory...

but, I've been doing it all my life because it really works. Always, in every case. You only need to stay focused and know what you want :)
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Temat: The Secret

Maciej J.:

Steve, why even bother - and this goes for the rest of you guys, if you don't like what Laars is saying, then just ignore him – end of topic.

Maciej, you are now Maciej the Troll slayer!


Obrazek


haha...
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Malgorzata F.:

You only need to stay focused and know what you want :)

Another key... focus.. very, very important. It's easy to lose track of priorities and get caught up in the daily grind.
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Maciej J.

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Temat: The Secret

Rafal W.:
Maciej J.:

Steve, why even bother - and this goes for the rest of you guys, if you don't like what Laars is saying, then just ignore him – end of topic.

Maciej, you are now Maciej the Troll slayer!

>:) Wrrr! :P
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Maciej J.:

Steve, why even bother - and this goes for the rest of you guys, if you don't like what Laars is saying, then just ignore him – end of topic.

Thank you Maciej. I like when people make sense.Lars Saabye Christensen edytował(a) ten post dnia 12.12.08 o godzinie 14:53
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Temat: The Secret

Maciej J.:
Steve Jones:
Lars, any chance you could cut out the personal snipes?

Steve, why even bother - and this goes for the rest of you guys, if you don't like what Laars is saying, then just ignore him – end of topic.

No, please! Don't ignore Lars! He's so sweet when he thinks he's annoying :-)
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Ilter K.

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Temat: The Secret

Please stop it Marta.
He should write and release his book.
So I could sue him for the royalties.
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Marta Głowacka

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Temat: The Secret

:-). I'm just trying to annoy him, that's all :D. I just don't know what my strategy should be, so I started with this particular one ;P. But ok, I'll stop, cause you're asking.
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Temat: The Secret

Marta Głowacka:
:-). I'm just trying to annoy him, that's all :

Pani Glowacka you are infatuated with me,but dont be ashamed. I will dedicate my book to you. Ilter chapter 14 is mostly about you and for you.There is a section for just colouring in. I am not optimistic about royalties and fear it will go down like a Salman Rushdie book in a Kabul Bookstore.
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Temat: The Secret

Lars Saabye Christensen:
Pani Glowacka you are infatuated with me,but dont be ashamed.
I will dedicate my book to you.

Wow! Which one, if I may ask on behalf of Marta?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Saabye_Christensen

BTW, why does "How To Annoy People" does not appear among your masterpieces?

Oh, and you don't really look like you're 55, either...
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Temat: The Secret

Maciej J.:
Steve Jones:
Lars, any chance you could cut out the personal snipes?

Steve, why even bother - and this goes for the rest of you guys, if you don't like what Laars is saying, then just ignore him – end of topic.

Cos I suspect that Captain Lars is a soft-hearted soul underneath his outer layer and I also suspect that he's start bollock naked under his clothes.

The last observation was for the benefit of Marta...
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