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Bernd Schreckenberg:

People, show your feelings, impress with your sympathy, but don't loose your heads over that. Okay?

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Sylwia Łubkowska:

You can't expect people not to lose their heads in moments like this.

However, it is interesting (as well as worrying) to see that most people's automatic reaction will still be shifted towards remembering the past, nurturing our martyrdom and glorifying the symbols - this is what we've always done throughout the history.

It's part of our collective national personality.

The circumstances of this tragedy are rather unfortunate, because they will only fuel such thinking.

There are certain stages of mourning that have to pass, but I'm afraid that we particularly excel at ruminating about our history, so I'm not looking forward to turning on the TV over the next few weeks.

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Bernd Schreckenberg:

Sylwia Łubkowska:

You can't expect people not to lose their heads in moments like this.

Not people in general, but some, those for instance I know. People I'd thought would be smarter...
I was brought up in the naive believe that graduating leaves you not only with more theoretical knowledge, but as well with more knowledge about the world and the human condition.

The circumstances of this tragedy are rather unfortunate, because they will only fuel such thinking.

And which the pigs will use for influencing the masses.
("We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organization of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare.")

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Sylwia Łubkowska:

It's not about knowledge, it's all about emotions. Emotions come way before rational thinking.

I don't think it works like this. I guess the church will have some limelight, but in general people aren't 'manipulated' into such reactions, their behaviour is rather spontaneous.

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Bernd Schreckenberg:

'interesting' to see, who and what will come now...

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Sylwia Łubkowska:

But let's not talk about it today.

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Bernd Schreckenberg:

Sylwia Łubkowska:

But let's not talk about it today.

Most certainly. Take care.

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Sylwia Łubkowska:

Bernd Schreckenberg:
Why the sudden 'love' for a president who was disliked and hated by 2/3 or the population? Death (by accident or not) is not an achievement.

Have you ever seen a sleeping person?..

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İlter K.:

Now I don't mean this or that was a good president/politician, what I'm saying is, just shut up Bernd

OK, kidding again.

But please, try to get your human feelings back please :).

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Bernd Schreckenberg:
- my feelings and my inner believes have nothing to do in a public forum. I'm here to discuss, share knowledge, get to know people, have fun.

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So, dear internatinoal press, where did YOU find a country in shock and moarning?

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Guy C.:

Bernd, you exaggerate a little.

Yesterday at work it was the topic of the day for my colleagues (a lot of them were even in black): it's normal ...these victims were Polish people ! And I'm not talking about their function (as a President or a general,...) but as human beings with their own family and friends.

Of course they didn't cry but it's a catastrophe !

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Lidia K.:

Bernd Schreckenberg:
- my feelings and my inner believes have nothing to do in a public forum. I'm here to discuss, share knowledge, get to know people, have fun.

So why do you expect anyone be honest here?

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Katarzyna Ś.:
What do you mean by "really sad"? can you measure sadness?

I didn't light a candle, I didn't join any gathering, I didn't wear black. But still, I'm somewhat sad. No idea why, I didn't like the president and never was in favour of PiS. Nevertheless, I feel pity for all of them, regardless of the political faction. The fact that a lot of young ppl died (e.g. the crew) makes me even more upset.

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Bernd Schreckenberg:

Katarzyna Ś.:
What do you mean by "really sad"? can you measure sadness?

I didn't light a candle, I didn't join any gathering, I didn't wear black. But still, I'm somewhat sad. No idea why, I didn't like the president and never was in favour of PiS. Nevertheless, I feel pity for all of them, regardless of the political faction. The fact that a lot of young ppl died (e.g. the crew) makes me even more upset.

I did join the gathering. And I feel the same, but that doesn't verify IMHO:
- for the press to write that the whole country is in shock, people are crying, kneeling down in the street, praying, singing national songs, etc.
- for people to be agressive towards those who don't join certain facebook groups

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Bernd Schreckenberg:

I did join the gathering. And I feel the same, but that doesn't verify IMHO:
- for the press to write that the whole country is in shock, people are crying, kneeling down in the street, praying, singing national songs, etc.
- for people to be agressive towards those who don't join certain facebook groups

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Marcin B.:

It is the cynic in me but I'll bet a bottle of a decent Bushmills that most of that fake "United We Stand", "No (political) fighting for ever", "We shall be as one happy family" that are bordering on being ridiculous won't last a month.Marcin B. edytował(a) ten post dnia 13.04.10 o godzinie 10:33

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Marcin B.:

Bernd Schreckenberg:

I did join the gathering. And I feel the same, but that doesn't verify IMHO:
- for the press to write that the whole country is in shock, people are crying, kneeling down in the street, praying, singing national songs, etc.
- for people to be agressive towards those who don't join certain facebook groups

Yeah, it is the usual mass hysteria - same JPII story redux. Im under the impression that people cannot separate the respect for the fallen from the rather poor quality of the late president's term. It is the cynic in me but I'll bet a bottle of a decent Bushmills that most of that fake "United We Stand", "No (political) fighting for ever", "We shall be as one happy family" that are bordering on being ridiculous won't last a month.Marcin B. edytował(a) ten post dnia 13.04.10 o godzinie 10:33

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