Łukasz
G.
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Łukasz
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warren whitmore:He gets paid far more than that, cause he is educated, I think!
Thanks for posting that.
Perhaps the interviewer himself should be asked if he'd like to pick vegetables for the minimum wage.
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G.
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warren whitmore:We could dispute for hours about that. Maybe thay can read few words (like Stella, Scrumpy Jack and Ritzla) ;), but definitely can not speak proper English :)
(1) I don't imagine anyone shown on the clip to be a budding Shakespeare or potential rocket scientist, but probably they can at least read.
(2) Generally speaking you don't get paid 7 GBP an hour for not working in the U.K..Yes, but taking into consideration all other currencies that are growing into strength, it is not that sweet any more.
(3) Economic success is the cause rather than the consequence of immigration to the U.K..Without the consequences there would be no cause, but I do not know anything about economics, so will not give my hand for it.
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warren whitmore:
Fairly obviously no-one wants to pick vegetables if given the choice not to do so.
No-one would do it as a hobby.
I thought the programme was supposed to be on the side of the white working class.
Basically the interviewer simply went up to the most stupid people he could find and asked them leading questions.
Let's say he lost his nice well-paid media job, I could go up to him and ask whether he would like a job working in the fields for 7 GBP an hour. Would he take it? If he told me to get lost, I could then make a programme about how lazy people with degrees are.
Łukasz
G.
Senior Technical
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Patrycja P.:So called CHAVS :)
You definitely chose the wrong target of your attack, Warren. It is not the presenter that gives England a bad image, but them, the young unemployed, lazy men presented in this trailer. Sad but true.
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Łukasz G.:
I do not feel like if I was stealing a job from English people.
My post (job) was in the newspaper, I went for an interview, scored well.
One person scored more points than me, due to be English, that I found out later.
He turned out to be a myth-man. Did not know what he was doing etc., just telling things an Interviewer wanted to hear from an Interviewee.
Eventually I got the job, even though they were in doubt that I would manage being Polish.
My job requires thorough IT knowledge (very broad) and a day-to-day customer contact over phone and via e-mail. I think I am doing a great job, and do not feel guilty at all for what I know and do.
Regards,
Łukasz
Łukasz
G.
Senior Technical
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warren whitmore:So why can't some English people do that, they have the advantage of being native speakers. I had to struggle, especially that majority of our customers are from Ireland and Scotland :)
You're just providing for yourself and your family. (If you have one).
That's nothing to feel guilty about.
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Patrycja P.:
That's pathetic Warren, and you are aware of that. The presenter wouldn't have to pick vegs because he is EDUCATED. Can't you see and admit that there ARE people in the UK who ARE uneducated and abuse the system as any other nations in the whole world?
Should the presenter be coursed for showing "different" England? Different but true at the same time?
You definitely chose the wrong target of your attack, Warren. It is not the presenter that gives England a bad image, but them, the young unemployed, lazy men presented in this trailer. Sad but true.
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G.
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warren whitmore:I will agree to that :)
Everything's relative.
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Łukasz G.:
warren whitmore:So why can't some English people do that, they have the advantage of being native speakers. I had to struggle, especially that majority of our customers are from Ireland and Scotland :)
You're just providing for yourself and your family. (If you have one).
That's nothing to feel guilty about.
Łukasz
G.
Senior Technical
Sales Manager w
Tripleplay Ltd.
warren whitmore:
I have no idea why you are asking me this.
A certain percentage of the English population is lazy, useless or whatever.
But the same is true of the Polish population.
Where I live there are a considerable number of drunks, beggars, unemployed people and so on.
I could ask you exactly the same question.
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warren whitmore:
Why shouldn't educated people have to pick veggies?
Is manual labour somehow beneath them?
I've done this myself.
The interviewer, (as do most interviewers), just got what he wanted.
If I was to go up to unemployed Polish people and offered them the minimum Polish wage to pick vegetables (5 pln an hour or whatever) I'm sure a lot wouldn't be interested.
If they were offered the English minimum wage (7 X more), many would change their minds.
Then again, if you were to offer English youth the chance to work for seven times the English minimum wage, 50 quid or 250 PLN an hour, I'd imagine they'd go for it.
Everything's relative.
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warren whitmore:
I have no idea why you are asking me this.
A certain percentage of the English population is lazy, useless or whatever.
But the same is true of the Polish population.
Where I live there are a considerable number of drunks, beggars, unemployed people and so on.
I could ask you exactly the same question, (why don't Polish people want to work)?
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Patrycja P.:
True. We're asking the questions because the material presents ENGLISH people and your response to it is blaming the presenter for doing such a programme. That's it.
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