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Temat: Saint Sebastian thread:

warren whitmore:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't imagine too many young, educated people in Poland are anti-semitic.

Not the kind of people you find on GL.

Please tell me I'm not wrong.

No, you're not :) Young people aren't anti-semitic.

Was your weekend getaway with a group like above?
I somehow thought they were older, especially that you say they were the creme...Lidia K. edytował(a) ten post dnia 14.08.09 o godzinie 22:54
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Temat: Saint Sebastian thread:

Lidia K.:
warren whitmore:
Was your weekend getaway with a group like above?
I somehow thought they were older, especially that you say they were the creme...

You're right.

I also came to the realisation that I'm middle-aged.

And discovered that your average British guy is far less fit than your average Pole older than himself.
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Temat: Saint Sebastian thread:

warren whitmore:

It's very hard to say, but I would imagine most don't.

I'm only talking about 'educated' people here.

I was just referring to it since some years ago surveys in Germany showed rising of antisemitism especially amongst students.

One expert in Germany wrote very clever book ("Der ewige Antisemit") in which he describes how antisemitism is spread amongst politicians, public figures and educated people in Germany, mainly from the political left. Modern antisemitism comes in the disguise of anti-Zionism or more anti-Israelism. One standard phrase of those people: "We as Germans have a special responsibility for Israel. So it is allowed to say that Israel should..."

Another sick twist of history is that there are people in Germany who think that Palestinian suicide bombings of busses, cafes etc. with civilian casualties, kids etc. is legit since it's there means of fighting for freedom. They condemn Isreal for it's politics, concluding it should be eradicated from the maps of the world.

Or, as a Jewish intellectual put it: "The Germans will never forgive the Jews the Holocaust."
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reminding someone about their grandfathers blame always backfires... people do not like this. It's a funny thing how this tends to come back since ancient times. Jews indeed must be the chosen people, but necesserly to what they would like to be chosen to...
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I feel sorry for Germans.

Carrying all that history on their backs.
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Temat: Saint Sebastian thread:

let's be honest Warren, Brits carry a lot too. The difference is that you have won or pulled out in time ;) And never started anything in Europe ;)
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Temat: Saint Sebastian thread:

I think British is a pretty good nationality to be, at least as far is history is concerned.

However, it isn't really fair to judge people according to what their grandparents did or didn't do.
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I agree, I think you colonisation model was the most beneficial for colonies.
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Is the remark above your opinion, or are you being sarcastic?
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I'm serious. I honestly think that British colonisation can be compared only to roman and greek in terms of benafits to colonised populations.
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It's nice of you to think so, but I don't suppose that, for example, Tasmanian aborigines would agree.

As a matter of fact, there are no longer any Tasmanian aborigines.warren whitmore edytował(a) ten post dnia 15.08.09 o godzinie 17:06
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Temat: Saint Sebastian thread:

well, we all have some skeletons in the closet.

and a bit about polish St Sebastianism...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8181486.stm
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I don't think you have fully understood what 'the Saint Sebastian syndome' means.

But anyway, you could take the article to be proof of 'political correctness' in the BBC.

In many countries, people would say that others should have the right to let their houses to whoever they wanted to, and the national broadcasting organisation would have no interest in covering what it would regard as a non-story.warren whitmore edytował(a) ten post dnia 15.08.09 o godzinie 17:20
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Bernd Schreckenberg

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Temat: Saint Sebastian thread:

warren whitmore:
I feel sorry for Germans.

No need to. What's done is done. The importance lies for me in the fact that people, Europeans, Germans, whoever ought to learn from it. From their history, from all our history.
Carrying all that history on their backs.

No relativism intended: All of Europe has a shitload on their backs, being WW2, Kosovo, or anything before the 20.century
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