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Lidia K.:usufruct is exactly this. And BTw - it's not typically POlish - it exist in more countries than you think - not only
Yes, Wendy, this usufruct thing is used as an equivalent, but still nobody knows what it is as it is a typically Polish (communist) invention.
Property buyers need a lot of explaining anyway as the usufruct is still meaningless for them.
Andrzej W. area manager, deme
Wendy Tweed:
andrzej wiatr:
Lidia K.:
andrzej w:I meant that idea of uzytkowanie wieczyste (99 yrs) was invented by the communists, not the unfortunate English equivalent itself.Lidia K.:Yes, Wendy, this usufruct thing is used as an equivalent, but still nobody knows what it is as it is a typically Polish (communist) invention.
Property buyers need a lot of explaining anyway as the usufruct is still meaningless for them.
the english traduction is
hereditary tenure or
hereditary lease
and it's million miles from being a typical Polish (communist) invention...
And traduction is French, isn't it?
the idea of Emphyteutic lease was yet in use in the roman law so I suppose that's before Poland and before polish communist...
the lenght of this Emphyteutic lease is usually 99 years but can go to 999 years and then we use the notion of hereditary lease.
And roman law was written in latin, the actual french is a mix of latin and Gaulish language so yes it's a traduction of french even the word emphyteutic is from greek plant.
UŻYTKOWANIE WIECZYSTE
How about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_usufruct
Bartek Skierkowski trener, konsultant
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Bartosz S.:
suppose... How would you translate:
- stan wojenny
- kartki na mięso
- pgr
- docent
- sympozjum
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Łubkowska
Nauczyciel oraz
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Marcin B.:
Bartosz S.:
suppose... How would you translate:
- stan wojenny
martial law
- kartki na mięso
rations
- pgr
(no idea - all I can think of is way too descriptive)
Nah, easy - try these: "kursokonferencja" and "klubokawiarnia" or "chloporobotnik"
:P
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Sylwia Łubkowska:
>
- zagrycha
- popitka / zapojka
- frycowe
- zachachmęcić
- bajer(ować)
- babcia klozetowa
and recently - galerianka
Rafał Janta aj em ju ar
and recently - galerianka
"Mallrat" perhaps?
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Rafał Janta:
and recently - galerianka
"Mallrat" perhaps?
and it's not gender-biased! is there something like "galerianin"? ;-)
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Łubkowska
Nauczyciel oraz
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angielskiego
Marcin B.:
Sylwia Łubkowska:
>
- zagrycha
- popitka / zapojka
- frycowe
- zachachmęcić
- bajer(ować)
- babcia klozetowa
These are really good ones!
and recently - galerianka
"Mallrat" perhaps?
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Sylwia Łubkowska:
- kartki na mięso
- popitka / zapojka
Rafał Janta aj em ju ar
Marcin B.:
Rafał Janta:
and recently - galerianka
"Mallrat" perhaps?
and it's not gender-biased! is there something like "galerianin"? ;-)
"chav"? ;)
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Sylwia Łubkowska:
Mallrat's good. Although I was thinking about teenage girls looking for punters in the shopping centres, not only hang around there as a form of spending their free time. Does 'mallrat' include this connotation?
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Rafał Janta:
That's more like 'dresiarz' to me, but they do
hang out in malls.
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Marcin B.:
It could. I was thinking of New Jersey trilogy and > this word came to my mind immediately.
Rafał Janta aj em ju ar
Rafal Wolk:You're probably right, Rafal, although "thug" rings a different bell to me. "Scally lad" is the closest to "dresiarz", methinks, at least to refer to those in the UK.
Rafał Janta:
That's more like 'dresiarz' to me, but they do
hang out in malls.
Nah "dresiarze" would be more like "track suiters" hahaha... also the word "thugs" is pretty close to what you are trying to portray.
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Wendy: there's nothing like our old-skool 'klozet-> babcia' as sung by Big Cyc ;))
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