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Is the word pupil still used?

Like to say:
I have a 7 year old son, he's a pupil at primary school.

Or is student universal for any level of education?

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In the schools I work in, the word pupil is very much used:)

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Lidia K.:
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Is the word pupil still used?

Like to say:
I have a 7 year old son, he's a pupil at primary school.

Or is student universal for any level of education?

No, not student.
You could just say "He goes to primary school". You don't have to use the word pupil.

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thank you

so where would be the borderline with a pupil and a student?
would Polish gimnazjum have pupils (aged 14-16) or students already?

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Steven H.:

Lidia K.:
one more from schoolbooks

Is the word pupil still used?

Like to say:
I have a 7 year old son, he's a pupil at primary school.

Or is student universal for any level of education?
No, not student.
You could just say "He goes to primary school". You don't have to use the word pupil.

Then I am wondering, Steven, why the deputy headteachers that usually intorduce me to the classes I would be teaching on a particular day do use the word pupils and I am talking about the primary (or lower, as they are called in Beds.) or junior high (middle) schools?

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I think Steven just rephrased my sentence so it sounds more natural :)

He didn't say that pupil is not used or is incorrect.

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Lidia K.:
I think Steven just rephrased my sentence so it sounds more natural :)

He didn't say that pupil is not used or is incorrect.

Yeah, that is a possibility ;p

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ubiquitous - I like this word, but never hear people use it here.... Is this one old fashioned?

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Steven H.:

Lidia K.:
one more from schoolbooks

Is the word pupil still used?

Like to say:
I have a 7 year old son, he's a pupil at primary school.

Or is student universal for any level of education?
No, not student.
You could just say "He goes to primary school". You don't have to use the word pupil.

And schoolboy/schoolgirl? How old is he/she?

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How about: "what's a pity" ?
I remember that people in USA were laughing hearing this.

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Lidia W.:
How about: "what's a pity" ?
I remember that people in USA were laughing hearing this.

I guess the correct version is "What a pity" but no idea why it made them laugh, this is not so funny, is it?

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“what a shame” is the widely used version of it. I don’t know why would anyone laugh at “what a pity” or “how pitiful” although it is a rather… hmm… I’d say snobbish sounding for the everyday English using American.

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As my knowledge of usage of English in Poland is close to NIL, let me make my contribution another way.

I know, I am in minority on this forum, nevertheless it is interesting to read and compare everyday language.
Friendly description you bastard can be probably considered offensive in most countries, though, it is commonly used.

We wittness in Australia fast pace of change and influence on traditional perception of meaning of "Australian". Unlike in old European countries, or America - Australian population grew up from 6 mln after the 2nd war to 21 milions nowadays in just 50 years!!. As per statistics of the latest census - every 4th person was born overseas or from parents born overseas. Will we be nostalgic for ocker tones it they fade away, only to be heard on old videotapes of Paul Hogan?
hovewer everyday English is changing - paralely to traditional mumbling originated from mix of cockney and Irish - is less and less popular.

All Australians are expected to have loyalty to Australia and its people, and to respect the basic structures and principles underwriting our democratic society. These are: the Constitution, parliamentary democracy, freedom of speech and religion, mind you:English as the national language, the rule of law, acceptance and equality.

Influx of migrants makes many words obsolete and exotic. Dr Felicity Cox and Dr Sallyanne Palethorpe say their research over 15 years, drawing on interviews with 500 young Australians, shows a shift away from the broad Australian accent.

"Part of the reason is that there are now negative connotations associated with the very broad, ocker accent," says Cox. "It's also a manifestation of Australia's growing self-confidence as a nation. [People] no longer feel they have to be defined by that kind of strong accent."

Australian English is a continuum, with broad at one end, and cultivated - such as the clipped patrician sounds of the Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, and the former prime minister Malcolm Fraser - at the other. Most Australians speak a standard Australian English, known as general, that falls between the extremes.

In Western Australia beer is pronounced "be-ar". In NSW beer has one syllable. Much closer, the Federal Capital, Canberra is pronounced Canbra locally and Canberra in Sydney. My family name used to be distorted 25 years ago now is pronounced clearly by all communities. Correction was made also to the famous KOZJOSKO Nationa park, now it is KOSCIUSZKO - pronounced in many ways, hehhee.

I hope I didn't bore you, howver I feel it is necessary to clarify some myths referred to Australian slang.

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Grazyna N.:
ubiquitous - I like this word, but never hear people use it here.... Is this one old fashioned?

I think it is because a lot of people don't know what it means.

Re. students and pupils. When I was growing up I only really thought of those at university or perhaps other types of further education being called students. That is just my feeling about it and wouldn't say that this is something officially recognised.

I think that teachers call pupils pupils simply because they are talking about something within their professional domain using professional language. Apart from 'children' I can't see what other word they could use.
Naturally within the staff room they say 'little shits'

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Steven H.:

Naturally within the staff room they say 'little
shits'

haha... I'm not sure if it ever made it across the pond, but there was a show here at one point called "The state" and they have a pretty funny skit regarding just that...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6YfEiP0FilU

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Naturally within the staff room they say 'little shits'

shhhhhh, Steven, you've just made my (and other teachers') secret known ;p

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Grazyna N.:

Steven H.:

You could just say "He goes to primary school". You don't have to use the word pupil.

Then I am wondering, Steven, why the deputy headteachers that usually intorduce me to the classes I would be teaching on a particular day do use the word pupils and I am talking about the primary (or lower, as they are called in Beds.) or junior high (middle) schools?

Because he is speaking in 'formal' (official) register.

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Lidia K.:
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Is the word pupil still used?

Like to say:
I have a 7 year old son, he's a pupil at primary school.

Or is student universal for any level of education?

Sometimes those at High (11-18) School are referred to as 'students' to encourage them to behave in a more 'grown-up' and mature fashion.

The choice of words indicates the speakers attitude to those being described.

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Grazyna N.:
ubiquitous - I like this word, but never hear people use it here.... Is this one old fashioned?

It is a formal word rarely if ever used in everyday speech.

A good dictionary will tell you how exactly a word should be used.

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warren whitmore:

Grazyna N.:
ubiquitous - I like this word, but never hear people use it here.... Is this one old fashioned?

It is a formal word rarely if ever used in everyday speech.

A good dictionary will tell you how exactly a word should be used.

yeah, I know that, but I wanted to contribute to this thread:)

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