Temat: Nigerian scam 419 - is it possible to win this battle?

Western Africa developed culture of cheating white men. There are millions of Africans working on the best method to win trust of white men. They are permanent customers of Internet cafe in Spain, Great Britain, Amsterdam with one purpose in mind: How to rob white brothers from their savings.

Before the Internet era they didn't hesitate to invest into phones, poststamps to send hundreds of copies of identical letters just to deceive Europeans, Australians, Americans, Canadians and make them depart with small amount, which in total create multibillion dollars business.

They have support from white intelectuals mumbling always the same mantra about God's punishment for colonialism, justifying crime, clearly spread in black Africa. They are supported by local gangs, mafia, and mainly by the government officials. They are dangerous.

Temat: Nigerian scam 419 - is it possible to win this battle?

Steven H.:
Whilst taking my car for an oil change in a small garage in Strasbourg in 1996 the guy asked me to the boss's office to help him understand a letter he'd received written in English. It was one of these scams though I'd never seen it before. I explained what was written and told him that I thought it must be something dishonest, though I was really surprised reading the letter.

Stan, when was the first recorded receipt of such a letter (telegraph,more-code,sheet of papyrus)?Steven H. edytował(a) ten post dnia 08.06.08 o godzinie 19:10

I have no idea about history. There is a couple (german + japanese girl) in Germany hated by Africans, they dedicated their life to fight this crime.
Everyday I receive in our emails 2- 10 "offers" some of them are very sofisticated. I receive phone calls from satellite phone few times a year, typed letters in my mail. Any involvement of Africans into correspondence will save poor souls, however I have no time neither consider it a fun any longer.

Below are simple (there are sophisticated) examples from last weekend:

1)

2008/6/8 Diallo Salim <diallo_salim17@yahoo.com>:

You're invited to: $20MILLION.BUSINESS PROPOSAL IF YOU ARE INTERESTED REPLY ME IMMEDIATELY
By your host: Diallo Salim

Message: DEAR PARTNER,
I HAVE A BUSINESS TRANSACTION OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE BOTH FAMILIES.MY NAME IS MR DIALLO SALIM AUDIT MANAGER BOA BANK BURKINA FASO.I DISCOVERED AN ABANDONED FUND WORTH OF $20MILLION.THE CLAIMS IS 100% RISK FREE .I NEED A HONEST FOREIGN PARTNER THAT WE CAN BOTH DO THIS TRANSACTION TOGETHER .FOR MORE CLEARIFICATION REPLY ME BACK AND IF ONLY YOU ARE INTERESTED .AND CAPABLE TO ASIST ME CALL 22676460669

Date: Saturday June 7, 2008
Time: 7:00 pm - 8:00 pm (GMT +00:00)

Will you attend? RSVP to this invitation

2)

musa8@hutchcity.com
show details 8 Jun (1 day ago) Reply

MR.MUSA HASSAN
NIGERIA NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION
FALAMO OFFICE COMPLEX,
IKOYI, P.M.B. 12701, LAGOS.
PHONE: 234-8025542104.
Email: musa9@hutchcity.com

Assalamalaikum,

PERMISSION TO REMIT US $21 MILLION INTO YOUR COMPANY OR PRIVATE ACCOUNT.

It is my pleasure to write and inform you of a transaction involving the transfer of US $21,000,000.00 (twenty one million US dollars) only into a foreign account for safekeeping pending my arrival with my colleagues for the sharing with you as the account owner into which the money is remitted. I am an accountant with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC), Lagos and this money originated from over-invoiced contract executed for the corporation some years back. This contract has long been completed by a foreign firm and the contractor duly paid. I now seek if you would permit the surplus to be remitted into your account.

As a matter of fact, we are top government officials and we cannot come out openly to claim this amount. This is why we are looking for a competent and honest company or individual abroad whose documents would be tendered by us here in Nigeria as one of the contractors that executed the project. However, I would wish to receive your personal assurance that you would not sit on the money when it goes into your account. More importantly, you keep confidential this transaction, in order not to tarnish the confidence repose in the officials involved in this transaction.

To effect this transfer, I therefore request the following: YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER, THE NAME OF YOUR BANK WHERE THE MONEY WOULD BE TRANSFERRED INTO AND ALSO YOUR PRIVATE FAX AND TELEPHONE NUMBERS FOR QUICK COMMUNICATION. So far, after due consultations, you were strongly and reliably recommended to us although we have not met or entered into any kind of contract with you before as to know the extent of your honesty, but based on the recommendation, I personally want to believe that you are honest enough and would not sit on the money if finally got into your account. It is on this note that I consider it proper to write you asking for your permission and support to transfer this amount into your account.

You should not fear any risk because I have concluded arrangement to safe guard you in the transaction. This business is 100% risk free. Hence it requires high level of confidence and secrecy. Meanwhile this is the breakdown of the sharing modalities: (A). 10% WILL BE USED TO SETTLE TRANSFER CHARGES AND LEGAL PROTOCOLS. (B). 30% IS FOR USING YOUR ACCOUNT. (C). 60% OF IT WILL BE FOR US THE ORIGINATORS. Be informed that on completion of this business I will use part of my money to invest in your country under your care. Please note that the transfer operation will take seven to ten working days to be completed. Please contact me by the above Email Address musa9@hutchcity.com

THANKS
MR.MUSA HASSAN

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Mr. david Brinsford to undisclosed-re.
show details 16:40 (5 minutes ago) Reply

Good Day,

I will first introduce myself as Mr. Brinsford, a staff in the Accounts Management Section of a well-known bank, here in Scotland, UK.

One of our accounts, with holding balance of £15,000,000 (Fifteen Million Pounds Sterling) has been dormant and last operated four years ago. From my investigations and confirmation, the owner of the said account, a foreigner who died on the 7th of January 2004 in a car accident that occurred in Birmingham here in UK.

Since then, nobody has done anything as regards the claiming of this money, as he has no family member that has any knowledge as to the existence of either the account or the funds; and also Information from the National Immigration also states that my late customer client has the same last name with you and he was single on entry into the UK.

I have confidently discussed this issue with the Attorney to my late customer client and we have agreed to work with you due to the fact that you have the same surname with him it's 100% SURE that your claims will be approved by the finance firm where the said funds were lodged. We therefore propose to do business with you, standing in as the next of kin of these funds from the deceased and funds released to you after due processes have been followed.

This transaction is totally free of risk and troubles as the fund is legitimate and does not originate from drug, money laundry, terrorism or any other illegal act.

On your interest, let me hear from you.

Warm Regards,

David Brinsford.

DISCLAIMER:
This message contains confidential information and is intended only for specified addressee. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Please note that we reserve the right to monitor and read any emails sent and received under the telecommunications (Lawful Business Practice) (Interception of Communications) Regulations 2002

Ps
The copy of disclaimer was copied from our emails

Temat: Nigerian scam 419 - is it possible to win this battle?

Jon M.:
If I was stuck in small-town West Africa, I'd be tempted too. But these are a pest and show sophisticated internet skills. Since they can't be stopped, the best solution is education and information, so even the most naive know to ignore them.

They are illegal under the Nigerian Criminal Code, but tracking down the perpetrators would be impossible.

A worse problem are the 'Boiler Room' investment companies, not generally connected to Africa.Jon M. edytował(a) ten post dnia 08.06.08 o godzinie 18:57

Wrong!
It is easy to assigned 2- 10 agents to fight this crime and arrange for a meeting with authors and put them in prisons. And message would spread around.

However government officials support this industry, as they profit from scammed persons.

Who knows the word used by Negros to describe trustful Whites?

I know only rule No1 of International trade - never do deals with Nigerians.

Temat: Nigerian scam 419 - is it possible to win this battle?

Steven H.:

Below are simple (there are sophisticated) examples from last
weekend:

1)

2008/6/8 Diallo Salim <diallo_salim17@yahoo.com>:

You're invited to: $20MILLION.BUSINESS PROPOSAL IF YOU ARE INTERESTED REPLY ME IMMEDIATELY
By your host: Diallo Salim

Message: DEAR PARTNER,
I HAVE A BUSINESS TRANSACTION OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE BOTH FAMILIES.MY NAME IS MR DIALLO SALIM AUDIT MANAGER BOA BANK BURKINA FASO.I DISCOVERED AN ABANDONED FUND WORTH OF $20MILLION.THE CLAIMS IS 100% RISK FREE .I NEED A HONEST FOREIGN PARTNER THAT WE CAN BOTH DO THIS TRANSACTION TOGETHER .FOR MORE CLEARIFICATION REPLY ME BACK AND IF ONLY YOU ARE INTERESTED .AND CAPABLE TO ASIST ME CALL 22676460669

Date: Saturday June 7, 2008
Time: 7:00 pm - 8:00 pm (GMT +00:00)

Will you attend? RSVP to this invitation

Did you mean 'sample' rather than 'simple'?
I hardly call it simple telling someone that for some contrived reason there is a fortune in a bank for them which a) they haven't inherited from family or friends b) they have done nothing to earn.

It it wildly far-fetched. What is simple is the person who believes it.

Simple.
I receive also sophisticated, and will place them on Export Import board as warning. They are usually "offers" copied from legitimate businesses, and look like real ones. With elaborated certificates and on letterhead. They always request advance payment, sometimes small money, sometimes firstly ask for L/C.

Below is example of a perfect scam by Nigerians educated in Moscow - it is taken from a real life:

http://www.terrapetrol.ru

(For doubtful - yes, our organisation verified scammers. Yes, they are black Nigerians working with one Russian. None of the persons on pictures is real. We need to deal with them from time to time.)

Temat: Nigerian scam 419 - is it possible to win this battle?

Jon M.:

Keith Byrne:
You think this is dishonest? I transferred money over a month ago, and I'm still waiting for my Viagra!Keith Byrne edytował(a) ten post dnia 09.06.08 o godzinie 11:10

Friends recommend potencja.pl

About not doing business with Nigerians, I suspect this is true of many countries in the world. Large companies insist on irrevocable letters of credit etc.

I knew somebody rich and naive who lost a small fortune doing business with Russians back in 1990.

1) Irrevocable Letter of Credit is used as a rule
2) Russians, including example given above and in total, petroindustry - is based on secretive nature of dealings by Russian companies. Example: In 2006, Ukrainians agreed to buy gas from Gazprom, via small company in Switzerland of 2 people. In February, March were first deliveries, in April 2006, at the request of Ukrainian Governement, CIA discovered that the company was fictional, nevertheless they delivered gas, as agreed.
3) In the similar way operate OPEC selling surplus besides normal quota limitations.

It creates perfect environment for scam.
Americans in 2007 delegation to Moscow hoped to arrange for transparent dealings in energy.

Temat: Nigerian scam 419 - is it possible to win this battle?

Steven H.:
I think that a basic rule of thumb should be that if you are a nobody and somebody asks you to get involved in a business you have no experience in, then you should run a mile.

In the example of this supposed energy company, if they were so bloody marvellous they'd have banks or investors (such as Shell, Exxon, Technip, or whatever) throwing money and offers of collaboration at them, they wouldn't have to go around canvassing strangers for cash.

1) In this case they offered Russian Development Bank in Moscow with a real account number, however belonging to another company.

2) If you will do search on google, you will learn from Canadiam Police Nigerians often have somebody inside the bank working with them.

Reagrding your rule of thumb - I agreee. However there are newcomers to the business. This is why each time I am sending reply to hosts of their account requesting investigation and closing, just to save poor souls, hoping for a big profit.

In general I have better things to do than chasing nigerians in my paid time; and I wish tolerance for them will expire one day. However watching African Governments of Nigeria, Coite Davoire, Benin, Togo and a culture of deception I doubt it will happen in my generation.Stan Kulski edytował(a) ten post dnia 09.06.08 o godzinie 15:35