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Ilter K.

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Jarek A.:
I didnt say metro = gay
Good. Because if you did, you'd added a new definition.
I said, several times, that the line is thin.
I've read your lips now.

But you also said you are disgusted and added:

"I mean I am rather old fashioned in this area - men should be men, women should be women."

Was that about a "thin line", or the metrosexuals?
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Lidia K.

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Ilter, maybe I missed something in the prior discussion, but which of the metrosexual spa pleasures would you resign from as being too gay?

BTW one of my most wonderful experiences was Hamam in Turkey (fortunately with a woman as a massager). Wonderful, relaxing and amazing!
I'm going to get one in Wroclaw soon in our waterpark.
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Ilter K.

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I haven't been to any spa Lidia.
So, I don't know what exactly the spa pleasures are.

I have to spend serious time to get rid of hardened heels sometimes, and I don't use any chemicals or those stuff sold in pharmacies. So I try to be regular with 'taking care rituals'.
Which is not always possible.

Turkish hamams are great. But I haven't been to one since... 90s?
Good that you've reminded... next time I'm in Istanbul :)
If you have a male massage guy, you feel like he wants to kill you, but you feel great after the torturing is finished. Kind of restructuring the skeletal system :)
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Lidia K.:
Steven H.:
I don't really make much effort or spend any money on my appearance.
I don't use soap, just water and a bit of friction, and when the weather isn't too warm I go for my beloved bicarbinate of soda instead of deodorant. I almost never use aftershave either.
I hope you're joking here, Steven?
Or are you allergic to everything?

There are few reasons. Partly I think that putting complex chemicals on your skin (i.e. under your armpit especially) isn't very healthy, and spraying them via aerosols is toxic both for your lungs and the environment. Given that I'm not going to pull any girl only because I smell of a certain manufactured scent (personality and confidence are probably more important), then I can't really see what is wrong by simply being odourless.
I would also prefer to save the money and the space taken up in landfill.Steven H. edytował(a) ten post dnia 03.07.08 o godzinie 19:18
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Lidia K.

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Actually I was asking about the non-using of soap.
It's not good for the face for example, I use a special gel, but don't think you'd be doing a similar thing.

Odor is a secondary thing.

You're right about personality though.
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Ilter K.

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Walking with an oily face whole day is also not good for the skin.

If you have an oily skin, you know what I mean.
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ilter K.:
Turkish hamams are great. But I haven't been to one since... 90s?
Good that you've reminded... next time I'm in Istanbul :)
I cannot believe it. It's your national treasure!
I'd recommend it to everyone (maybe except Jarek)
If you have a male massage guy, you feel like he wants to kill you, but you feel great after the torturing is finished. Kind of restructuring the skeletal system :)
Hehe, in my case they kind of worked out that I wouldn't be happy with a strange man touching me, so they got me a sweet girl. Everyone was happy then.
I miss it so much!
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Lidia K.:
I'd recommend it to everyone (maybe except Jarek)
Feel free to recommend it to me as well.
Hehe, in my case they kind of worked out that I wouldn't be happy with a strange man touching me, so they got me a sweet girl.
I wouldn't mind a sweet girl massaging me. Maybe we (the girl and I) could switch places too.
Everyone was happy then.
Yes, provided the above condition would be met.Jarek A. edytował(a) ten post dnia 03.07.08 o godzinie 19:41
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Steven H.:
Given that I'm not going to pull
any girl only because I smell of a certain manufactured scent

Could you please, pretty please explain that to the men I ride on buses and trams with? And well, women too. I hate it when people smell TOO MUCH of perfume, especially if cheap shit. I still remember when the Old Spice after shave was popular amongst men in Poland; I'd recognize that smell anywhere, even if had a cold.
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ilter K.:
Walking with an oily face whole day is also not good for the skin.

If you have an oily skin, you know what I mean.

At least oil is natural and comes out of your skin for a reason. When someone (who has seen me in close up) tells me that I need to do more with my skin, then I will do.
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Jarek A.:
Lidia K.:
I'd recommend it to everyone (maybe except Jarek)
Feel free to recommend it to me as well.
If you ever go to Turkey, go for a hamam experience.
It's recommended in the beginning of your stay as your skin is not burnt yet, so the scrubbing of your ENTIRE body won't be painful but only pleasant in a way.
Feels great.

In the tourism industry some people are so eager to have sex with the tourists... I'm not sure it applies to male tourists with the local girls though.Lidia K. edytował(a) ten post dnia 03.07.08 o godzinie 19:53
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Ilter K.

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Steven H.:
ilter K.:
Walking with an oily face whole day is also not good for the skin.

If you have an oily skin, you know what I mean.

At least oil is natural and comes out of your skin for a reason. When someone (who has seen me in close up) tells me that I need to do more with my skin, then I will do.
Only the ones which are very close to you can dare to tell you such things, Steve.

Many men won't see it anyway. You can't expect them to comment about it, unless the oil on your face gets into such a state that it can be used in a spaghetti sauce.

Your wife, or girl friend.
Don't expect anyone else.
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How come I've gone through several decades and never known about this oil-on-the-face business?
I bet no bloke had even thought of it until multinationals decided to create this 'problem'.
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Dave Andrew:
How come I've gone through several decades and never known about this oil-on-the-face business?
I bet no bloke had even thought of it until multinationals decided to create this 'problem'.
spot on
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Lidia K.

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you mean sebum or some other kind of oil?
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Ilter K.

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You mean, you've never seen a guy with an oily face?

Maybe it has something to do with your nationality.

But my skin, is the oily type.ilter K. edytował(a) ten post dnia 03.07.08 o godzinie 20:23
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ilter K.:
Walking with an oily face whole day is also not good for the skin.
Actually it is your organisms natural protection from UV rays and other 'good' stuff.

In a dry climat it can be a prob tho'.Jarek A. edytował(a) ten post dnia 03.07.08 o godzinie 20:23
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Well I've never noticed it. Anyway - cant we embrace it if we have it?
Perhaps it's there for a reason. Not that i can think of one off-hand.
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Ilter K.

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Jarek A.:
ilter K.:
Walking with an oily face whole day is also not good for the skin.
Actually it is your organisms natural protection from UV rays and other 'good' stuff.

In a dry climat it can be a prob tho'.
I'm aware of what you wrote there. I studied Biology.

Excessive oil has to be cleaned regularly. If not... well, that thing is a great medium for bacterias. It is possible to get even infections (if acnes are not enough).
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Totally agreed.
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