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Lidia K.

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This can be a hot topic, so please don't take it personally.

I assume we are all aware of certain norms and standards of behaviour in our countries and in the country where we happen to live if that is the case.

This topic is not for education but for entertainment or more of a chance to state your own opinion. You do not need to be extremely proper in your generalizations and please save your political correctness for other threads.

Are good manners (in Polish called Savoir-Vivre after the French) a value in life?
Where should you learn them? Should you apply them in every situation? Isn't it a little bit of a compromise with the System?


[e.g. we've already had related discussions about dressing up for matura exams or handshakes in business...]
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In my field manual, and then before deployments, jumping or swimming, it was yelled in our ears "be polite, be professional, and have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
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"In a Manner of speaking
I just want to say
That I could never forget the way
You told me everything
By saying nothing"
:))))
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Rafał Janta

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"On the Continent people have good food;
in England people have good table manners."
George Mikes
;-)
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Joj Y.: and have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
:))
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here's a little joke about manners:

During one of her daily classes, a teacher trying to teach good manners, asked her students the following question:
"Michael, if you were on a date, having dinner with a nice young lady, how would you tell her that you have to go to the bathroom?"
Michael said, "Just a minute, I have to go pee."
The teacher responded by saying, "That would be rude and impolite.
"What about you Peter, how would you say it?" Peter said, "I'm sorry, but I really need to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back."
"That's better, but it's still not very nice to say the word bathroom at the dinner table."
And you, little Johnny, can you use your brain for once and show us your good manners?"
I would say, "Darling, may I please be excused for a moment? I have to shake hands with a very dear friend of mine, whom I hope you'll get introduced to right after the dinner."
The teacher fainted.... ;pGrazyna N. edytował(a) ten post dnia 13.05.08 o godzinie 14:57
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It helps to be polite and nice, but I think overly PC people are even more annoying than those who tend to be straight and to the point. We have discussed similar topics here before it was basically regarding the British way of keeping everything at a certain distance. In my opinion, it is up to each individual how far they are willing to go with politeness and manners. I do think that helping an old lady cross the street or getting up on the subway for someone elderly is something that we all should do from time to time. At the same time, I am not a believer in the distance keeping. I don’t see a point in being tactful when you hear or see some serious nonsense, if what a person that you are interacting with is unable to process the information that you are trying to convey.
In a work place, it helps greatly to be polite and nice, simply because it is already a rather unpleasant situation that you are finding yourself in, why make it worst?
Other than that, I think common sense should apply for most situtations.
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Jamie Stokes

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I'm afraid I'm going to play my usual trick of referring to a blog post that's related to this. In my defense I will say that I didn't write it (it's by a fellow collaborative blogger).

Interesting stuff about chivalry and the modern Polish male:

http://polandian.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/chivalry/
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Rafal Wolk:
It helps to be polite and nice, but I think overly PC people are even more annoying than those who tend to be straight and to the point.

You like people who are straight to the point like this, Rafal?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVcz_B0goms

;p
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yea... sure .. why not!
You know, I grew up not very far from Alternatywy 4.
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Jamie Stokes:
I'm afraid I'm going to play my usual trick of referring to a blog post that's related to this. In my defense I will say that I didn't write it (it's by a fellow collaborative blogger).

Interesting stuff about chivalry and the modern Polish male:

http://polandian.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/chivalry/

that's a good one...
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Lidia K.

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Rafal:
Jamie:
Interesting stuff about chivalry and the modern Polish male:

http://polandian.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/chivalry/

that's a good one...

yes :)
a very good discussion place, too.

I especially liked the previous post on banknotes, lots of googling done :)

From a site on manners in England
* It is ok for women to eat alone in a restaurant.
* It is ok for women to wander around on their own.
* It is ok for women to drink beer.
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Ilter K.

Ilter K. Business Developer,
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Are good manners (in Polish called Savoir-Vivre after the French) a value in life?
"In life", I don't know. But it is good for me.
Where should you learn them?
In your family. Or from you mother/father/care-taker/brother/sister/etc.
Should you apply them in every situation?
This is not like "in case of an emergency landing on water". You behave the way you like and they way you've learnt... and we're human, sometimes we make mistakes and surprise even ourselves.
Isn't it a little bit of a compromise with the System?
Which system? Our nervous system?
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Lidia K.

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Rafal W.:
I don’t see a point in being tactful when you hear or see some serious nonsense, if what a person that you are interacting with is unable to process the information that you are trying to convey.

So what do you suggest?
For me the common sense solution is just let go.
Even if it's not a work place.
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The sensible thing would of course be to let it go. Sometimes it’s just too tempting not to debate or at least give it a try.
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Lidia K.

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Does being tactful equal not debating or questioning anything?
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Lidia K.

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I'd let go not because I'm tactful but because I'm scared of open conflict and the possible outcome.
Plus the destruction of my emotions.
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Not to me... haha.. but I'd hate to be Captain Obvious over here hahaha...
I think it all depends on the way you approach any given subject and the reply that you get. I tend to give what I receive back and keep my little ying equal with the yang so to speak. If absolute babble is what I get, I will probably try to match it up with evenly ridiculous reply, it’s just more fun that way. I guess what I am trying to say is that responses to verbal or physical interaction with others are tightly connected to the way those interactions were conveyed to begin with. Which I think may put us back into the already thickly covered topic of cultural differences and misunderstandings.
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Lidia K.

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Cultural differences...
So Rafal, have you adjusted your Polish grzeczny chlopiec manners to the New York survival DJ and corporate life in any way?
Which ones?
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Lidia K.

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ilter Kalkanci:
Where should you learn them?
In your family. Or from you mother/father/care-taker/brother/sister/etc.
Should you apply them in every situation?
This is not like "in case of an emergency landing on water". You behave the way you like and they way you've learnt... and we're human, sometimes we make mistakes and surprise even ourselves.
Isn't it a little bit of a compromise with the System?
Which system? Our nervous system?
The System where everything is organized and you are expected to conform.

Do you take pride in your manners then?
And what if you had no parents/brothers/uncles and were just self-taught?
I think that the impact of the home environment is exaggerated sometimes.
Often it has to do with sensitivity and imagination.
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