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I wonder what partnership means to you?

Does it mean performing household chores in turns/together? Making each and every decision together? Or maybe letting her carry all the bags herself if she asked for equality?

What kind of compromises are you ready to make?

How much freedom would you allow your partner to have?

A question to men: Would you take (have taken) your wife's surname if she (had) asked you?Patrycja P. edytował(a) ten post dnia 20.08.08 o godzinie 12:56

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Patrycja P.:
I wonder what partnership means to you?

It means that if she decides to go out and steal horses, I’d smile and ask her where the stables are.

What kind of compromises are you ready to make?

You mean, other than sharing your life with them?

How much freedom would you allow your partner to
have?

I think it’s a matter of how you define “freedom”, I can’t see myself personally putting any sorts of restrains on my partner. Do what you will, who am I to tell you what you can and can not do. All I ever expect from any relationship; be it with my wife or business is honesty and I don’t think that’s asking too much.

A question to men: Would you take (have taken)
your wife's surname if she (had) asked you?

Sure, why not, Kari and I, we had this conversation before our wedding.

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I guess I'd say just make sure you're with someone who can be your best friend. When the romance is gone and the chemicals wear out, you will at least have someone you enjoy being with. I'd look for honesty more than being able to decide who's going to make coffee in the morning (ideally not me...), who has to take the trash out, or who gets to sleep sideways in bed when they feel like it.

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Rafal W.:
Patrycja P.:
I wonder what partnership means to you?

It means that if she decides to go out and steal horses, I’d smile and ask her where the stables are.

I know Raf's using a metaphore here, but would you let your partners do something that is morally/legally suspicious?

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Patrycja P.:
Rafal W.:
Patrycja P.:
I wonder what partnership means to you?

It means that if she decides to go out and steal horses, I’d smile and ask her where the stables are.

I know Raf's using a metaphore here, but would you let your partners do something that is morally/legally suspicious?

There is always a reason for everything; it would all depend on the situation.

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Rafal W.:

There is always a reason for everything; it would all depend on the situation.

No, don't tell me it depends on the situation. If something is morally/legally bad it is morally/legally bad. So?

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It does depend on the situation. If my partner wanted to steal a million dollars to help my child survive (expensive treatment etc.) I'd help out. If he did it to buy himself yet another gold chain... Hey, I wouldn't have decided to spend my life with him in the first place! Gold chains are a major turn off.

(I hope you get the point, although served in very light sauce)
Keith Byrne

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Temat: How much partnership in a relationship?

For me, the question isn't really "would you let...", as my wife is her own person, capable of making her own decisions. I advise as I see fit, and try to help her make what I think is the right decision. Being in a relationship means accepting when she makes the wrong decision, and helping to clear the mess. Silently.

Edit: and also feeling warm and safe, knowing that you can ask her for advice and help, and remain free to make your own choices, but that she'll be there to help if it goes pear-shaped.

Mrs. Byrne went with the kids to Babcia'sthis week. I miss her very much :-(Keith Byrne edytował(a) ten post dnia 20.08.08 o godzinie 14:45

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Patrycja P.:
Rafal W.:

There is always a reason for everything; it would all depend on the situation.

No, don't tell me it depends on the situation. If something is morally/legally bad it is morally/legally bad. So?


Certain situations in life call for acts that go against morals. If your child’s, partners, or any family members’ life was being threatened by someone’s actions, wouldn’t you take their life? It wouldn’t even be a thought.

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Keith Byrne:
For me, the question isn't really "would you let...", as my wife is her own person, capable of making her own decisions. I advise as I see fit, and try to help her make what I think is the right decision. Being in a relationship means accepting when she makes the wrong decision, and helping to clear the mess. Silently.

Oh hell no! hahaha... If I think she’s about to do something less than advisable, I will let her know how I feel about it right away. Mess more often than not, takes a lot more time to clean up then it takes to make it.

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Tatiana S.:
It does depend on the situation. If my partner wanted to steal a million dollars to help my child survive (expensive treatment etc.) I'd help out. If he did it to buy himself yet another gold chain... Hey, I wouldn't have decided to spend my life with him in the first place! Gold chains are a major turn off.

(I hope you get the point, although served in very light sauce)

I get the point. Everything is acceptable except gold chains ;)

TBH, a theft is a theft. No matter what the reasons are.
Keith Byrne

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Rafal W.:

Certain situations in life call for acts that go against morals. If your child’s, partners, or any family members’ life was being threatened by someone’s actions, wouldn’t you take their life? It wouldn’t even be a thought.


Isn't that morally acceptable, then? Most governments even consider this legally acceptable, in some cases!
Keith Byrne

Keith Byrne Director, Select
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Rafal W.:
Keith Byrne:
For me, the question isn't really "would you let...", as my wife is her own person, capable of making her own decisions. I advise as I see fit, and try to help her make what I think is the right decision. Being in a relationship means accepting when she makes the wrong decision, and helping to clear the mess. Silently.

Oh hell no! hahaha... If I think she’s about to do something less than advisable, I will let her know how I feel about it right away. Mess more often than not, takes a lot more time to clean up then it takes to make it.

Yeah, but would you forcibly stop her?

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Patrycja P.:

TBH, a theft is a theft. No matter what the
reasons are.

It sure is, the difference is – dealing with theft for no reason vs. dealing with theft when it is fully justified by circumstances.
For example: After hurricane Katrina, TV stations nationwide in the US were calling people looters. Meanwhile the state did absolutely nothing to help these people, they did not provide food, they did not provide assistance or help for days. Looting? No it’s survival, it’s making sure that you and your kin can last another day.
Are you going to tell me that you wouldn’t do that?

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Keith Byrne:

Yeah, but would you forcibly stop her?

No.

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Rafal W.:


Certain situations in life call for acts that go against morals. If your child’s, partners, or any family members’ life was being threatened by someone’s actions, wouldn’t you take their life? It wouldn’t even be a thought.

OK, I can understand situations when you have to defend your family, but committing a planned crime is another story.

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Patrycja P.:
Rafal W.:

Certain situations in life call for acts that go against morals. If your child’s, partners, or any family members’ life was being threatened by someone’s actions, wouldn’t you take their life? It wouldn’t even be a thought.

OK, I can understand situations when you have to defend your family, but committing a planned crime is another story.

Unless you're Bonnie and Clyde! (sorry for ot)

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Rafal W.:
vs. dealing with theft when it is fully justified by circumstances.
For example: After hurricane Katrina, TV stations nationwide in the US were calling people looters. Meanwhile the state did absolutely nothing to help these people, they did not provide food, they did not provide assistance or help for days. Looting? No it’s survival, it’s making sure that you and your kin can last another day.
Are you going to tell me that you wouldn’t do that?

Alright, but that, again, is survival. You are forced to do something in order to save your family. But let's imagine, your partner is an accountant and plans to rob their boss. They have planed everything, no chance someone will discover the fraud. What would you say?

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Patrycja P.:

OK, I can understand situations when you have to defend your family, but committing a planned crime is another story.

Again… life is full of instances where you may find yourself in a situation that calls for you to make choices that may go against everything that you stand for. Ever see the movie “Alive”? Now I am not one for human flesh, but let me tell you how fast I’d be chomping down on some buttocks.Rafal W. edytował(a) ten post dnia 20.08.08 o godzinie 15:12

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Temat: How much partnership in a relationship?

Rafal W.:
Patrycja P.:

OK, I can understand situations when you have to defend your family, but committing a planned crime is another story.

Again… life is full of instances where you may find yourself in a situation that calls for you to make choices that may go against everything that you stand for. Ever see the movie “Alive”? Now I am not one for human flash, but let me tell you how fast I’d be chomping down on some buttocks.

I know, I would most probably do the same, but let's not talk about extremes.

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