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Steve Jones:
Equally probably is my personal theory: the world was created by Mickey Mouse
We could certainly call "God" a "Mickey Mouse" -- and here, we have a religion. Just like atheism.
We could certainly call "God" a "Mickey Mouse" -- and here, we have a religion. Just like atheism.
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Tomasz Z.:
Steve Jones:
Equally probably is my personal theory: the world was created by Mickey Mouse
We could certainly call "God" a "Mickey Mouse" -- and here, we have a religion. Just like atheism.
My point exactly!
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Behold!!http://www.tarvu.com/
http://vimeo.com/1911088
Pray and become one with the Tarvu:
Once you've finished reciting it - that's it! You're a Tarvuist! It really is that simple.
Here it is:
Tarvu tarvooti,
Oboonoo cTooti,
Mimmin O'tibbi noonah,
Mdfitty fitty noonah,
Arvu immentiBarvu,
Tarvu.
(To be said when you wake up, go to bed, and after you have visited the toilet.)
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Bernd Schreckenberg:Fantastic!!
Behold!!
http://www.tarvu.com/
I learned how to talk to an octopus! :)))))
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Joj Y.:Yes, I quite disagree with baptizing children before the age of consent and was baptized at the age of 17.
They have a ceremony and receive a certificate of Debaptism, "...having been subjected to the Rite of Christian baptism in infancy (before the age of consent), I hereby publicly renounce..." etc., etc. etc.
Those ceremonies are not standardized, and one guy in ohio, a "priest" uses a blow dryer to "dry the baptismal waters..."That's hilarious!:D Do you think they keep a straight face when doing it?
From what I understand, many, if not most atheists reject it as just another meaningless ritual.
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Steve Jones:Or like the Spaghetti Monster.
Tomasz Z.:
Steve Jones:
Equally probably is my personal theory: the world was created by Mickey Mouse
We could certainly call "God" a "Mickey Mouse" -- and here, we have a religion. Just like atheism.
My point exactly!
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Lidia K.:Well, in Poland you can "sign out" of the Catholic church the way you log off GoldenLine only it's a bit more complicated. Apostasy has become increasingly popular amongst those atheists who were baptized in good will. Not sure if they're Monty Python enough to use a blow dryer but hell yeah this sounds great!
Joj Y.:Yes, I quite disagree with baptizing children before the age of consent and was baptized at the age of 17.
They have a ceremony and receive a certificate of Debaptism, "...having been subjected to the Rite of Christian baptism in infancy (before the age of consent), I hereby publicly renounce..." etc., etc. etc.
Those ceremonies are not standardized, and one guy in ohio, a "priest" uses a blow dryer to "dry the baptismal waters..."
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As far as I know the signing out is extremely difficult.Just like the annullment of a RC marriage.
You can do it but it takes a lot of time and effort.
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I wonder why. Why would the church want to keep disinterested people amongst its faithful members? See, in Germany, where a choice of religion means taxes, it's a bit different.To be honest, even though I was baptized into the Catholic church I don't feel the need to become an apostate because I never really associated myself with the whole organization.
Many of my friends never go to church but claim they want a white church wedding, and they want to be buried "properly" when they die. Well, civil ceremonies can be great as well.
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Sorry for not reading the whole thread, just wanted to give my opinion on the first post.For me, something does not fit if people are so commited to organizing themselves against the ideology.
I would first give an example from other area to make it easier to see it without prejudice. Politics!
Let's take PiS for example. Their attitude in general is fighting the red/left/socialist (does not really matter what they fight against). So they have they own ideology and fight the other because believe their is better. Fine. One might think that if someone hated communism now has to love PiS (OK, remember it's an example and we don't really want to analyze PiS program). Not necessarly. Because he could not like the commitment, not the ideology itself.
OK, another example. Maybe religious but not real, so it's easy again. Dungeons & Dragons alignment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_&_Dra...
It generally clarifies what I mean. If you swich good and evil to religion (let it be Christianity) and atheism you will clearly see that the ateists from the first post are _lawful_ ateist. So generally, there are more similar to those who they fight against than different. And here is the point.
Atheism for me, in this commited way at least, is basically a different kind of religion, at least from the psyhological point of view.
So (for me!) being religious is not about IN WHAT you believe but rather IF you believe at all.
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To me, religion is about both belief AND rituals. Therefore atheism doesn't seem to fall in the category. No time to consult dictionaries or encyclopedias now and I'd rather not elaborate as am writing this tapping "me pda" screen. Those who are interested in the subject can go to the "Ateizm" group on GL. Not very much alive but we manage to discuss things without spitting on our opponents ;)
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According to Merriam-Webster:::::::::::::::::::::::
religion
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
atheism
1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity
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Now let's don't get stuck with the archaic definitions, shall we?
According to the 2nd definition of "religion", (which reads: "personal set"), sounds better than the 2nd definition of "atheism", to me.
But hey, don't think that I've always thought this way. I'm just saying.
I still think, that not feeling like belonging to any religions should not mean I'm an atheist.
But it's perfectly OK for me if someone feels atheism is their belief (?), or if they feel like an atheist.
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Steve Jones:
Tomasz Z.:
Steve Jones:
Once the knowledge gap has been filled, religion will be no more.
Not really. Knowing there is no God is exactly the same as knowing there is God. You can't know either one.
My point was that when there's a knowledge gap (you can't know whether if God exists or not) then something (perhaps religion) will fill that gap.
When there is no gap, there is no religion, only knowledge.
You feel me?
Yeah, but I think in ancient times when people's scope for understanding was much more limited than it is today and when people presented themselves as gods (e.g. Pharaohs), people were quite sure not only about the god's existence but also about his nature. They could actually see the god so they thought they knew it existed. And that didn't stop them from developing a cult / religion around deity.
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I have determined that all of your opinions are valuable, from Apostacy to Faith and on through to Void filling ideas. hehe :)We don't have a Z for Zoroastrianism yet.
Christian religious leaders and others are willfully harming children by their ignorant opposition to stem cell research and development of specific disease treatment plans.
Civilisation can do without that. Joj Y. edytował(a) ten post dnia 19.09.09 o godzinie 20:54
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Tatiana S.:>and I'd rather not elaborate as am writing this tapping "me pda" screen.
I think we would all need 2000+ words to really clarify ourselves by branching thoughts, but it's difficult.Joj Y. edytował(a) ten post dnia 19.09.09 o godzinie 21:19
