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Tatiana S.:
Rafal Wolk:
Poles are racist. (to non-white minorities in Britain).

Agreed, but that goes for a lot of different european cultures as well. It is deeply ruted christianity and false nationalism.

American, too. You always read schholbook stories of the "melting pot" and one single visit to Arkansas can change this forever, not to mention places like the Houston Gulfton ghetto. The xenophobia in Arkansas is almost proverbial. And, more importantly, ot works both ways and Afroamerican/Hispanic populations enjoy mingling with the white population about as much as a preschooler enjoys his daily spinach. I'm making a huge generalization here though, maybe a bit of a hasty one too. What I mean is that a certain level of xenophobia is usually reached within most societies; some of them revert to gas chambers, Ku Klux Klan, and the others accept the diversity. In Poland, which had been a "WPC" (White Polish Catholic) country for years, it wasn't easy for people to accept the new order which, inevitably, brought immigrants from other countries. I think there are places in Poland where dark skin is no real problem - being Vietnamese, Chinese, Belarussian or a Gypsy

I once drove to Chicago from NYC. When in Indiana, we stopped at a store to pick up some snacks and drinks. After walking in, first thing we noticed was couple of skinheads with iron cross, spider webs and other such great symbols tattooed all over their bodies. The melting pot stops at the borders of every major metropolis. Not to say that this is a picture of every small town in US, because it is simply not true. However, I went to HS in a small town in Jersey. One would think that being this close to NYC racial prejudice would have been something not very common. Unfortunately it was not. I do agree, that reverse racism is also something of an issue here. It is probably far greater than actual racism at this point. What you do have to keep in mind is that, granted, in Poland people are "edgy" around anyone east of our borders for reasons deeply rooted in our culture. Here, those roots are still very close to surface and while Poland has been pretty much free of invasions, pogroms and other such attrocities, people of color in states were still being lynched not too long ago. In some cases groups like the Aryan Brotherhood or the KKK are still very much present in some parts of the country. A little piece of information that I picked up living in NJ. It was the biggest mecca of nazis and Klan's men in the past and this past still echos loudly now and again. Don't forget "racial profiling" aka "driving while black" is also something that was brought forth in NJ... no more than what? 10 years ago or so?

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Steven H.:
P.S. As Warren said, British men in Britain now love Polish women. No idea what they say about their teeth, but the guys are definitely smitten.

It's great to hear it, Steve. :)))) At least there is one nation in the world where men don't think Polish women are " cheap hookers" ( I refer to opinions from another thread )

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Idea of calling polish women "cheap hooker" probably comes from Poland. I can't imagine english chaps naming in that way girls only because they want to relax and have a fun :-)

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Jarek Grześkowiak:
Idea of calling polish women "cheap hooker" probably comes from Poland. I can't imagine english chaps naming in that way girls only because they want to relax and have a fun :-)
Alicja was referring to one of my posts in which I gave a few examples of the stereotypes in modern Italy.
"Cheap hookers", a.k.a young, naive girls from Eastern Europe, was one of them.

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which, I want to add, was easily perceived to be a reference to a general stereotype, and not a reflection of your view, J.

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precisely

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Thank you for explanations lads;-)

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Grazyna Nnachi:
I wish the antagonism we do sometimes experience in Poland was directed at myself as I wouldn't give the monkeys about it, but it is my husband and sometimes our boys that are targets of racist comments... :( which I have never experienced here, in UK.
Still, surprise surprise, my husband loves Poland and the Poles....


Poland is still "white". Small towns reactions on somebody with different skin or clothing might be hard to stand. Even different thinking or sexual preferences are the reason to be put aside. The closer to the academic/business/cultural centers the less 'barriers'. The total number of African people living here, working and studying is probably far less impressive than Arabic ones, whose, in fact, skin tone is not representative to typical Polish. And.. they live on. I know few girls who married Arabs and live here. One lives even in Israel with her Arabic husband ;)

Love just 'loves' forgetting about it and you can do much for love. If I (theoretical 'both') decided to have kids in Poland, I would like them to be rather white.. Just for their sake. Beloved people are not black, yellow or white, they are just beloved.

I love Richard Mbewe. He is an expert on economics. When he speaks broken Polish in one radio program, he sounds like aphrodisiac ;)

To conclude.. If I had an exotic partner, I would leave small town in north-east part of Poland ;)Magdalena C. edytował(a) ten post dnia 16.02.08 o godzinie 18:30

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To conclude.. If I had an exotic partner, I would leave small town in north-east part of Poland ;)Magdalena C. edytował(a) ten post dnia 16.02.08 o godzinie 18:30

you are right Magda! Poles are not really used to other races that much and so can and do often misbehave towards them whem=n they do come to live in Poland.
I originally come from Wroclaw, a big, university town..... It is there that we experienced the mentioned racist behaviours....:( Sad, but it will change, I believe!

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My English friends heard only bad things about Polish people from.... Polish people. They think the world of us. They adore our customs and good manners. But some jealous Poles want to show some bad sides of others who have gained more in life than them (thanks to hard work of course).
Andrzej S.

Andrzej S. Krok za krokiem, do
przodu.

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First of all, ALL, I say, ALL TRUE poles love to eat deep fried BABIES.
WE especially like to suck on their little toes, which is our speciality in restaurants (LOOK OUT FOREIGNERS, be sure that the food here does not contain these if it is against your way of thinking and living). We only drink vodka. NOTHING ELSE. Even the tea here, in this god forsaken land, is made on a boiled vodka basis.
Also every polish person gets a free car just before they are born since every pole is naturally skilled in stealing and thievery of cars! We have so many cars, that we NEVER EVER need to buy these. They come to us from western countries. SO BE AWARE if u plan to come to our country and watch out for POLES.

... and in a more serious manner... (serious?) i'm having a big laugh every time someone starts mentioning national stereotypes :)

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Andrzej, you forgot to mention that while we're quite willing to include cannibalism in our everyday diet, the people should be fried while still giving faint signs of life, as some of us are energetic vampires that feed on negative emotions such as fear and grief.

Also, we love to work for the minimum wage in the temporarily selected country of residence (as most of us maintain a nomadic style of life) - as it's the Polish tradition of choosing only the most capable among our ranks to represent us throughout the world. If a given candidate survives for two years on foreign soil by feeding on dust or sand and drinking tears from his fallen enemy cheeks, he is then trained to become a fierce warrior of the BOR order.

Besides that, we have balls of steel.

:)
Andrzej S.

Andrzej S. Krok za krokiem, do
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How could I possibly ever forget about balls of steel!
Damn ME! Also... a true PROVEN fact. THERE is NO possibility to beat ANY pole in drinking. Even few month's old children are fed with high octane liquids so none ever can 'overdrink' them. This is our main national ability and pride. The legend says that russians test their space rocket fuel on Polish people. If any Pole gets a tiny bit drunk or merry on it, they can use it for a space mission.

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golden teeth, perhaps?
no, not this culture
Andrzej S.

Andrzej S. Krok za krokiem, do
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golden teeth come along with experience, age and moustache .. basically ...

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I'd say with a leather jacket as well
Andrzej S.

Andrzej S. Krok za krokiem, do
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I would say sweat-suits come along with these almost AS well as leather jackets and a ton of styling gel on HAIR. (not mentioning the secretly hidden comb in the trousers backpocket)

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