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Temat: Being Forced to Convert

Inspired by this article from The Times:

http://timesonline.typepad.com/faith/2008/07/girls-abd...

Do you know of anyone who's been forced to convert religion, for example in order to marry?

Can a forced conversion ever work out?

Would you ever "convert"?

Is the Catholic marriage procedure in Poland a kind of "conversion" in that people who have never seen a confession box for 10 years suddenly find themselves going "forgive me, Father, for I have sinned"...?

What's your opinion?

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I know a girl in Italy (she's Italian) who married a Tunesian guy. They both live in Italy. She had to convert and apparently did it without hesitation. But. My wife knows her from before the conversion and says she used to be your normal, stereotype next door girl, who enjoyed going out with friends, grabbing a pizza, shopping, going to the movies etc. Now, a year after the conversion she has been brain washed (that's my take on it) - she won't (is not allowed to) talk to a male she's not related to unless her husband is present. She won't (is not allowed to) go to see a doctor(!) by herself unless the doc is a woman. She once asked my wife to go with her to a dentist, because her husband was out of town.

I wouldn't convert, mainly because I'm not really a church-goer and if I were to switch from one religion to another it'd feel like washing dirty hands with burnt engine oil.

About catholic marriage thing - I see it more like a hypocrisy than a conversion (and I'm a hypocrite). Unless there actually is a "conversion" and a person starts to believe strongly and celebrate Sundays by dressing up and going to church.

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Jarek A.:
About catholic marriage thing - I see it more like a hypocrisy than a conversion (and I'm a hypocrite). Unless there actually is a "conversion" and a person starts to believe strongly and celebrate Sundays by dressing up and going to church.

Most girls go for it because of the fancy dress, the whole ceremony and the reception.
Since I believe there is no God (ok, maybe the power of coincidence should have convinced me years ago), I wouldn't accept any religion, not even for the man I loved with all my heart. I often read stories about women who married Muslims, and often wonder, what made them change their mind as for who or what their god is; intelligent, mature minds who decide to become what that friend of Jarek has become.

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I know one couple in particular, he comes from a Jewish family, she ... well she could have cared less... they got married.. A traditional Jewish wedding.

I would never, ever... I am currently at a stand off with my father in law, who is trying to convince me to get my kids christened... I don't think he fully grasps the extent of my discontent with the Catholic Church and how much I do not want any priest in any way, shape or form touching my kids. (And I don't mean touch kids like Michael)
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Temat: Being Forced to Convert

I have a similar story to the ones above. It's a sister of a teacher's girlfriend who married a Pakistani and had to convert to Islam and ever since then wears a veil and can't speak to men outside the family bla bla...

Ladies out there, please explain something to me which is bloody hard for me to understand... I just can't conceive of how a guy can be that mindblowingly fantastic that you would walk around with a veil on for the rest of your life... Huh? Sorry, don't get it...

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He must have a big car. Chicks dig big cars.

Kari's friend just gave up the whole vail thing... white chick, married into Islam... tried the whole cover up thing... didn't like it.

I think it's got more to do with the actual faith.
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On the topic of converting to Islam: I have a friend who is American and converted to Islam right before she married an Egyptian man after only knowing him 30 days. They have two children and have been married for seven years. She tried wearing the hijab for a couple of months and finally abandoned her efforts because of the negative feedback she got from the local residents. She is a very private woman and she hated the hard stares and prying questions from strangers. She and her husband argued for weeks about it but she wouldn't budge. She is happy with her life, her children and attending the Mosque, but she does argue with him a great deal about her social traditions and his disdain for them. Her Egyptian and Algerian female friends do not like to go anywhere and stress the importance of their husband's happiness. She tires of it, but she is definitely in a proud and happy marriage.

I personally tire of my husband's sour attitude towards organized religion. I do share a similar viewpoint, but it is such a touchy subject with so many folks I prefer not to make waves. I would not convert to any religion for 'love'. It doesn't make sense for me.

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Has anyone been to a Muslim wedding?

I went to one in Abu Dubai, (a close friend from uni).

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What was the point of the last three posts?

Can I delete them?
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I thought my post was somewhat relevant, but yeah - you're the moderator.

Temat: Being Forced to Convert

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